IF a smaller easier course with less hazards I will play from blue but I am having a ton of fun and scoring between 90 and 97 consistently every time with an average drive of around 220 yards. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph. Hang Time 5.8 Did your coach share the TrackMan report with you on mytrackman.com ? The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. It's not the length that makes a pro. I don't measure my driver distance. I think you wish you hit it further. This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Finally, course strategy is an improvement that can be made without having to change anything relating to the swing, technique, or other physical items. This philosophy has been a revelation to me. SM5 53, 59 Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) In other words the distance from where they hit the ball to the point of impact on the ground. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. Bump up your confidence around the greens. x]I]618nI9^R? PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364416031' post='6708919'] If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. TrackMan - Have a look at Justin Thomas' swing and | Facebook It's good for some laughs. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE Carry Distance 302.9 I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. WebReport PP - Read online for free. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. I have the occasional outlier above 250 but thats rare. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. All rights reserved. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] He was also the beneficiary of a grant that afforded him the opportunity to travel and pursue his junior golf career. FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX, Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! Despite the slight changes SM9 still looks very much like a Vokey should and thats what I like about these heads. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. [/quote] And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. Golf Concepts - This is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. Hcap 5 will be around 68. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. They hit 4-irons 208 yards and 5-irons 199 yards on average. Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! I prefer 120-160 yards, so I try my best to play to that yardage on par 4's. [/quote] Someone will probably come in and explain what he should do to improve those numbers.. Callaway Paradyme Tensei 1K 70 %PDF-1.5 The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. Mizumo T22 Blue 54 58 S400 TI Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. I appreciate your thoughts, great article. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] If it's a longer hole, I'll play the driver. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Launch Angle 11.28 More importantly, however, Justins time on the course where his mother and father both worked taught him about responsibility, passion, ethics, camaraderie, and hard work. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. Club Head Speed 119.55 I think this is very interesting but misleading. I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. Golf Balls are a Problem, Most Popular Driver on LPGA Tour? I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. Do you suppose my distance is bs? Have a look at his numbers. God how I loved playing golf. Well I certainly feel hood about how I played when i did. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. This is really intersting reading and I could not agree more with the finding your distance principal. I agree with you 100%. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. The 58 is versatile in shot options and with the change of grind from D to M I had an increase in performance. do Trackman numbers mean? Understanding golf launch monitor results How to Hit Massive Drives! [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] It's good for some laughs. You can post now and register later. The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run. My home course is around 6200 so I can work around not bombing it off the tee but it is perplexing to me. There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. Impacting the game through junior golf programs has always been an important part of his charitable giving. Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. Thanks! I don't measure my driver distance. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. we never play for money. Obviously not. [/quote] ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x Your email address will not be published. So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. Or should i take control on the distance i have? I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. It's good for some laughs. Im 46 years old and dont think my 95 mph swing speed will increase that dramatically without throwing rhythm off. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? [/quote] For 6-irons the average is 188 yards, for 7-irons it is 177 yards and 8-irons, 9-irons and pitching wedges go 164, 153 and 141 yards respectively. Impressive Combine Score by a 12 year old boy, How to maximize player performance with small changes. No question - 100%. I appreciate that. I don't measure my driver distance. My experience suggests that this is true. Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. Bob Vokey makes the best wedges for the best players in the world on behalf of Titleist. Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's If it's a really short par 4, I will hit an iron, hybrid, or fairway wood to play to that ideal distance range. [/quote] You've given me a good laugh for two days now. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] 6 0 obj Justin People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. [/quote] Nothing feels better than a Vokey, theyre silky smooth and with the right setup just slide under the ball. Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) [/quote] I know I hit the ball a long way though. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Although there is a slow trend towards improvement, many in the golf industry wonder why progress has not been faster. I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. Torrey Pines South, huh? [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] As club speed increases, those golfers tend to have lower handicaps. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. Yes! I have been working around that weakness by using shorter clubs off the tee but it leaves me with much longer second shots. The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Items sent in without return postage will not be returned. Does Trackman update this data each year? Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. My time spent on the driving range tells me there are a lot of guys hitting 100 yards, 125, 150, 175a few hitting 190.and an even smaller number hitting over 200. I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer i suggested he play white from the start and he is happy. Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. I should be getting more distance on this club head speed right? Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. [/quote] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] Anyone remember young Guan the 14 year old at Augusta he was so small he could only drive it 250 but did alright. And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. They make me giddy and want to practice my short game all the time. This gap is the highest one Titleist advise in custom fitting, they like to see only 4 degrees between clubs which unfortunately means you are buying 3 wedges and paying an additional 169. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Vokey inspect all wedges individually but do recommend you look to change wedges after 75 rounds in order to keep the spin rate at its optimum. Ive tried lots of different woods shafts and lengths but seem to reach a ceiling on distance. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. [quote name='Hamish777' timestamp='1364356541' post='6704153'] This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. More photos from the event here. For example, based on the average club speed of the AMA (93.4 mph) he should be able to hit his driver 255 yards (assuming certain ground conditions). I am guarded from the bladed strike when hitting the lob shot which then builds a trust and compliment to my short game. Howarth Golf Performance Studio | Facebook In 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. I've always gone with clubs based off of feel and ball flight, not what the numbers say. I don't measure my driver distance either. *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. [/quote] I also shot 86. The respective games the AMA and professional golfers play today are two entirely separate entities and should be treated as such. You can use our TrackMan Locatortofind your local TrackMan certified and ask for a combine test. 398 were here. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. Notice how few balls landed past the target.. The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. It has to do with my ability. Thanks to this impressive article, they will help more and more those who want to play golf. How Far Should You Hit a Driver? [/quote] Justin Thomas' Distances - Tour Talk - GolfWRX The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Sorry for the ramble. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. It's the short game. 5 Testers Needed! Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Mike Austin Swing: When Does the Release Start? Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) [quote name='xmanhockey7' timestamp='1364353356' post='6703825'] That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. [/quote] And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. Commented here a while ago Im actually not sure before I used GPS through my mobile whether I hit it further than I do now. It is not to suggest that a golfer should simply play a shorter course to shoot better scores, but that a golfer should play a course length that is appropriate. TI Taylormade SIM (9.0) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX [/quote] PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. Instead, its mostly situational. That is why you will find some pros wedges measured up to 0.5 or even 0.25 when listed and it is also likely that some of the actual strengths of the wedge lofts they use may in reality be stronger (i.e. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. 712u 3 I guess what Im saying is if you dont hit the ball straight consistently and you dont make good, clean contact consistently, it would be silly to focus on things like swing speed/distance. To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. Firstly there is really no need to play an 8 iron that long, secondly why on earth would you play nothing but trap draws especially with short iron I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. RocketBladez Tour 4-PW // C-Taper Assuming however the pros are hitting standard lofted pitching, gap, sand and lob wedges we found the following stock distances for how far the pros hit them. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X, 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. I hit a green today which was 163 so pulled a 6 iron landed on back part of the green 10 yds past the flag. That smash factor surprises me a bit. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. By comparison a 5-wood carries 235 yards and hit a 3 hybrid, which measures from 19 to 21, an average carry distance of 230 yards. 2 were over 320. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. The AMA isnt going to be achieving this max theoretical 255 yard drive very often. But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. Learn how your comment data is processed. [/quote] I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. However, the vast majority of the time I spend with my students that would fall into the AMA category is spent on working out the kinks in their swing (to help them hit straighter shots more consistently) and helping them with better contact with the golf ball. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Its about 20% less when comparing PGA vs LPGA. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. I have completely lost my iron swing due to injury and need a swing coach as well as does your program cover this as well? Full details on the new TSR2 and TSR3 here! Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. On the longest drive, the projected distance(without the slice) was 332 yards. Titleist 906F4 13.5* Fuji Rombax 8Z08 X Lol, so true.. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. The main part of the fitting was when I moved onto the chipping green and started to hit bunker shots - these clubs just got better and better, theyre so secure in strike and very reliable. All too many golfers go to the course and hit every shot in the hope its the best shot theyve ever hit. Trackman Data on PGA Tour Averages Hit It Longer I also shot 86. I don't play professional golf. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. The data results given in this article are completely skewed. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Cobra Aerospeed 3W Kai'Li White Top 50 Player Breakdown, What Irons Do LPGA Players Use? The longest player hits it 320 yards There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. Ever found a yardage you like? Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side. Add That Little Extra Limited also participates in other affiliate programs with FlexOffers, CJ, Svorn and other sites and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies (again at no cost to you). Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Length is nothing. Unless of course it's short enough to hit the 3 wood or driver at the green. The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. We share your golf passion. WebThis is Justin Thomas TrackMan Numbers How does yours Compare? This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 President & CEO, Boys & Girls Clubs of Kentuckiana, Brent Paladino They hit a 3-wood an average carry distance of 249 yds, a 5-wood 235 yds and 3-hybrids 230 yds. Its important to know what grass you play, what course you play (be it links or parkland) and how you deliver the club at impact (steep or shallow). More photos from the event here. bT^GCUbIRT97U]"p:JJL)K^B"qPLCw4jw[ ))~u#-n MQ\~x/1c_kQ&mK Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. [/quote] Carry Efficiency 2.51 #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho M2, maybe 915 FD 913 HD 712u 3 714 AP2 4-p SM5 53, 59 Circa62 knock it close Advanced Members 6.2k Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted It's not the length that makes a pro. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. Required fields are marked *. The 22 years old Jon Rahm, is one of the new upcoming stars on the European and PGA Tour. #TeamTrackMan =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Do you suppose my distance is bs? Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) It is all about the short game

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