Ranger: This is We Will Rise: National Parks and Civil Rights. For railroads the law stated, the conductor of each passenger train is authorized and required to assign each passenger to the car or the division of a car, which is divided by a partition designated for the race to which such passenger belongs. Gosh, I can go on a tangent about that. White people who saw it is their only way to get an advantage, and African Americans as the barrier that's keeping them from gaining access. I'm keep on talking marching up to freedom, yeah. No. Grand Canyon Podcast Directory - U.S. National Park Service And the question is, in the end, which is going to win out. alabama history, But because of the events that happened afterwards and the deaths and things that happen afterwards, overshadows the Freedom Rides, because it was so early. [Laughter] So I wasn't gonna get that. And this one is about buses. I'll start with my dad, who, as you said, he could use a pencil to create, like a photo realistic portrait. Freedom Riders rode buses across the south to test Supreme Court rulings declaring segregation unconstitutional in restrooms, bus depots, and waiting areas. National Parks Traveler Podcast on Apple Podcasts On top of the things that are really important for us, the things that we wake up and forget our actual privileges for us. You know, the Stonewall story is absolutely that. And I hope all of us have been inspired and challenged to, like you said, embody and live these principles in every day and everything that we do. That's progress for all of us. Close your eyes and imagine a National Park. From our, like, 8 feet apart. And we also earned an All Star for the MEI, and that's a status for our perfect score, despite Alabama status as a state without any nondiscrimination statutes that expressly protect LGBTQ people. Most recently, we championed gender neutral restrooms and all of the city-owned facilities with single-occupancy stalls. Mallisham: Right. And for a lot of people, certainly in the white community, I believe their attitude has been, we solved this already with the civil rights movement, and the reality is the movement was successful. Not just with me again, just with any first that we've ever studied in school. And that's so important as a teenager to feel like an adult actually acknowledges you as a human being. But looking at that practice, we know it didn't solve anything at all. We did not show fear. But then he had to leave, and Peck had to bring them on in, and they called Daddy to say it, he did tell them to be careful. Yeah. Join Park Rangers, researchers, authors, and activists as we discuss what liberty and justice for all means on our public lands. America's National Parks Podcast on Apple Podcasts I had no idea. And so they have really stepped up if you will and said let's use this bully pulpit we have, if you will, this academic journal to empower various communities that have really important things to say about conservation. That's on my list. There's no way you can do things like that to children or to your wife if there's not something broken inside of you. All visitor centers and paved roads will be open. Where Black people can type into a register and see, like, if their land was literally taken from their ancestors or their grandparents and given to white people. National Parks inspire us to do better, be better. And I'm sure that of course informed your selection as the poet laureate, and I imagine we'll also inform a lot of your work in the rest of your life. While many of us romanticize the expedition, there’s a lot Show More, Lewis and Clark NHP: A Multilayered Tale of Exploration PWPR 20, In the early 1800’s the US went through a revival of Christianity and people of faith signed up to minister to the Native American people in the west. I think it is their responsibility to do it because they've done it before. But I remember as a child, probably six, maybe seven years old, joining with the older people, as they sang, We Shall Overcome. That's a very poignant memory in my mind. All passenger stations in this state operated by any motor transportation company, shall have separate waiting rooms or space and separate ticket windows for the White and Colored races. Your email address will not be published. Kat: I'm sure someone else set it besides, but I just remember it very distinctly because many little girls do love that movie [points at self]. That things were hard and that the segregationists were unrelenting, very mean. So I was always congested. which are not necessarily thought of stereotypically as things that queer folks engage in. And so our office was created really to be the lens for the city, to help really employ social justice as a core principle in the city's policies and the operations and decision making through advocacy, engagement and implementation. So for that reason, women played a big role. So anyway, I have been thinking a lot about tokenism and how the successes of a few African Americans are often held up to demonstrate change when obviously for so many, the meaningful change is yet to come. But, I was there at a conference, in northern Alabama, and I remember driving into the state and seeing the billboard that advertised the Helen Keller birth home as a historic site. If you're not humbling yourself, I don't think you're really teaching you really have to understand that the students are teaching you as well. So yesterday, this is answering the question. And I was like, well, okay, then let me get back to writing, because it's amazing. What was really cool also was that it was led by two folks who are, uh, a gay man and a lesbian who are very engaged in outdoor sports, fishing and hunting, Okay, we'll move on. And that's very significant because a lot of the people, Black people did not want him to disturb the status quo. Become part of our Outsider family on Patreon to gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and more. And he said, you do not treat Ms. Haugabrooks like that. But because there are changes, I can be benevolent and say, 'Hey, I can embrace the change.' Because there are those of us who love history and will eat this stuff up no matter where we see it. And that just shows you where we have come as a country. So we're really excited to educate people about that. Ashley: Which maybe we'll get into. What what cover it gives me, if you will, in the world and Welcome to We Will Rise: National Parks in Civil Rights. I worked hard because I wanted to work hard. We really wanted them to rise to the occasion because I think when you do that, people surprise you. One is Jacqueline Trimble, Dr. Jacqueline Trimble. But let's look forward to the future, 60 years from now. So I really appreciate all the work you guys do. But I definitely feel more competent in what it's like to be me as I'm in this space. What you felt and experienced when you found out? And I'm curious if you're from the south, and just in general, what spurred this deep interest in looking so in depth at the story in Birmingham? They left everything in order. It was just amazing. Ranger Kat: That's true. Welcome to our first episode featuring Charles Person and Roy Wood, Jr. Charles Person was a Freedom Rider. National parks inspire us to do better, be better, to climb mountains both physical and figurative. I like to give her her respect. Those two political economies are currently at war. And the people that are coming now have like when Obama said, he stands when he acknowledged Daddy's airport. Episode 3: Ashley M. Jones, Poet Laureate of Alabama. And that's sort of how I think about this whole situation. Curated Podcasts Recommended by media. To me, a land acknowledgement doesn't stop at acknowledging the people whose land I work on and act as a steward for but to engage in partnership with those people and learn when appropriate and when, given that gift of how to better steward those lands, and again in partnership. Ashley: No, I mean, this is how the game works. is that sense of representation and it really goes along way. So, again, this is a man with a 7th grade education. Ashley: Well, it's interesting. We didn't care about color. However, I think if someone had made her do that as a young person, she definitely would be doing it. Go ahead. Out on the outer Cape, where so many queer artists found their muse. Ranger Kat: Thank you so much. And in the packets, there is a little demographic portion, and then there's a letter of support from them, and they could also ask others to write letters in that packet. civil rights act of 1964, It's called be ready and ask the Lord to help you do it. Roy Wood, Jr.: Well, the memoir is Buses are A Comin', and I'm going to end one more time on Revered Cox's quote: 'So many others made sacrifices so I'm not a slave. But in that moment, I was like, oh, I'm going to do it. And there are some few minor court legislation that's been returned. She said, you know, I'm always leery of groups, but I feel seen here and just hearing someone say that reminds me how important representation is and that welcome is and seeing somebody not as a visitor, but as a queer visitor or as a female visitor, or as a trans visitor, or as a Black visitor, seeing the person for who they are is important, and one of the ways that you can open the door for them to share their full selves is through that representation in the stories you tell and the exhibits you make. And it was just, like, thrilling to see Black characters and they weren't in pain. Racial equity is the treatment of people of all races that really results in equitable opportunities and outcomes. I'm happy to report that both Alma and Victor are being inducted into the Automotive Hall of Fame this year, and I'll be accepting the award on their behalf, which is amazing. There were not positions equivalent to that in other cities and it was really a focus on the cultural assets and the preservation. You just never knew. Hopefully it's well, okay, in this four years we had this person, that four years we had that person, and we have just a plethora of names we can look at. And what do we as professionals in the outdoor professions, what do we need to know to serve our own community or communities and why that's important is that the outdoors has not always been a safe space. But anyway, after Daddy was sick, I was there so much and I got lost so much that finally I just had to learn Birmingham so that I could get around to Oxmoor, where my Daddy was raised. This study came out in 2016 and I was wondering if you could share a little about what you know of the intention of the study and something about the study in terms of what it found that you see as predominantly significant? So you did touch on this. And so I'm curious with your background as a researcher, as an educator and as a park ranger, how can urban parks such as our own ensure that queer people feel welcomed to be themselves. Not too long ago Kurt Repanshek the editor at NPT decided to launch a new podcast series which covers many of the topics which the website covers in the news. Mrs. Bester: That was beautiful. Do you, do you know the worth? If we just understand that Black people are human beings already, maybe we can eliminate some of these problems in the future. And this 10th edition of the MEI actually examines how inclusive municipal laws and policies and services are of LGBTQ people who live and work there. Was there something happening there collectively? Oh, yes, they had that. 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Your book has traveled far and wide and is one of the books that really, I think, does an incredible job of explaining the movement in Birmingham, a really overall incredible, incredible summary, but also really gets into the details. Mallisham: Yeah. I'm really thankful what people are saying about Daddy, but they need to talk about the Colonel and some other people that helped him do what he did, because he could not have done it without support. Yes. Who do we call? It sort of changes it a little bit. That's pretty important, I think, to the story, as you may know, I was a very different sort of child. So I would say that about anybody interested in joining the Park Service or historic site. And I'm going to send you something, Kat. It was wonderful, and Daddy was able to fly up to be a part of it. And then they in this article, they encourage creative thinking that allows for queer possibility and then provide guidelines or sort of steps in how can you see queer possibility. Kind of like going back to that idea of ancestry and how the past informs the present, which then informs the future. player. And why do you feel they deserve to be recognized on a global scale? If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our series. We've got one proposal so far, and it's very exciting. And that's not being addressed. It was very nice. And there was still a lot of members who were there when he was there. And now there's no there were 250,000. They were very important part of Black culture. And they end up printing The Green Book for many, many years, and it is a great opportunity for them, and they make a lot of money on it. And I understand the logic that led them to that point, being the logic of the civil rights struggle, gaining equal access to the system. And what I didn't say too, is that TJ, the President of the AWC, he also is my Department chair at the Alabama School of Fine Arts. I think that what I heard you say is that racism in Alabama was really entrenched. It's the social structure and societal systems that have created this situation. Reverend Wilder: Absolutely. So thank you for reminding me of that. It will be a conversation I return to for many, many years to come, and hopefully we can have others, too. Didn't come in this world to be no slave and wasn't going to stay one either. And it goes on a little bit. You know, throughout these years I was writing the book. And that's where we need to say. Separate and apart from what you're saying in regards to them needing to have a more cohesive, a more organized cohesive structure, because sometimes I feel like, well, if the story has been covered differently, then maybe that would have helped as well. Best National Park Podcasts for 2021 - The National Parks Experience And so that's just one of many, I can go on and on and on about how affirming the city of Birmingham is. But when I guess I started writing this book, he became a huge part of my life. That change happened. Well, her name was Geneva, but people called her Ma, and she was based out of Atlanta, and she ran Haugabrooks Funeral Home. Our judges were from other parts of the school, which is always fun to have somebody else see what we do every day. Because we are all at this state of our country, we need each other, and we need to understand that God is still in control. Kat: Well, actually, I do want to ask about your parents, so I can skip to those questions, actually, because I read about your parents and how much they valued creativity. And as we've seen in this pandemic, the gross inequalities in wages that women earn and the terrible situation in which they find themselves so vulnerable because of the pandemic as a result of the employment opportunities that they confront. And humanity has lots of examples of the need to come together or confront annihilation. When I was in the front seat of my mom's car, there were about maybe 250,000 people in jail, or no, I'm sorry, there were about 750,000. And then I turned my phone on after I write it, and I find out that she died. I'm from Michigan and my husband is not white. But again, we don't know and but we certainly do know the context in which the relationship transpired, which was one that was far more marginalizing and oppressive to people and I'm glad you mentioned the heritage theme study because I didn't realize that the National Park Service had put together an LGBTQ+ heritage theme study. Lesser Known Founding Fathers. Denise: Okay, let me go back to Kansas City because I think that really is probably the beginning of the work that I'm doing today. Or do you think of Dr. King's childhood home, Japanese internment camps, and a school that became a battleground for racial integration? So we not only do the readings, but we try to raise money for a local organization each year. I think I think it's spot on. The National Parks Traveler website is the #1 source for national park news and is the only team of journalists writing exclusively on national park issues. Ranger Kat: Thank you all so much for being here. Ranger: Awesome. You don't know names to lift up. Roy Wood, Jr.: If you all just aren't there on that day, we just not communicating with nobody. Tags: The barriers to entry and just the intake, but also something at the very foundation. As children, my parents had to buy our books, and they were used books from the white schools, written in, but they had to buy them. lgbtq pride month, Everybody's National Parks | Podcasts | Crater Lake National Park We of course know each other through collaborating on civil rights history education, specifically the story of the 1950s and the movement led by the African American community here in Birmingham and the rest of the south. She attends a demonstration. I want to pivot to national parks and the role of national parks in The Green Book. And, of course, his hotel was considered the best place for Black people to stay in that part of the country. It was applied to the needs of folks with disabilities so that they would have access to public space, too. It made other people know that this should not be, we should be more proactive. That's just not true. freedom riders, Ashley holds an MFA in poetry from Florida International University and is the author of a number of poetry collections. So now we'll get to talk about a topic that I love, and that is the arts. So first we have to recognize that a lot of folks reject the notion that the queer struggle and Black American struggle can't even be compared. And that undue influence of external forces, this outside control, created its own dynamic of inferiority among the white elite in Birmingham who, you know, they didn't really control their destiny. I like that poem. And if you could maybe think about it as an opportunity to share, maybe in like, a minute, what it is that you feel about this upcoming anniversary. Right? Thank you for doing that work. She pulled me out of a school because in Texas, where I went to school, there were no Black kids in the A level reading classes. They one time smoked some weed. Remember, I just said a flaw in the law stated that religious organizations did not have to give up their membership roll. And that's on Netflix. And the devastation that I saw on the road documenting these Green Book sites in these traditional Black communities, the level of poverty and violence is just unacceptable. And a lot of the internships, particularly in DC, were unpaid internships. She is also part of the year round staff at Sidewalk and Film Center, where she works as the Shout LGBTQ+ Outreach Coordinator. It pointed to Birmingham's success. I'm not sure what's a better word, but to make it clear that queer folks fly fish. I felt like I was at a place where, again, a horrible, horrible, unspeakable thing happened. In fact, I need to call Wikipedia because they call Daddy Reverend Fred, Frederica Shuttlesworth. I sang in a girl's choir for a few years, and if there was a camp or any other opportunity for me to visit a place that I might not otherwise, places that aren't included in the curriculum at my school, then she was there, she was signing me up for it and I was taking part. National parks at risk of floods as Hurricane Hilary arrives - USA TODAY And then, so as far as my surprise, I wasn't surprised for the whole year that it was all happening because I was a part of the whole process. Smith: Well, thank you. Hosted by two friends who share a passion for the outdoors and a fascination with what can go wrong there, National Park After Dark is a podcast for the morbid outdoor enthusiast. But anyway, she teaches down there. Regardless, theres some great listening available and much to learn about the various parks that have been covered. I think I answered the question. And certainly the closure of a lot of public restroom facilities or just facilities in general is tied to the struggle towards civil rights with desegregation happening, and many cities in the south just closing down facilities rather than desegregating. I think that was just very critical to show that this was not just lip service. For me, the most inspirational are a lot of the ones that you talked about, especially when you contrast, like, going to Arlington National Cemetery and seeing the respect and the reverence that occurs around the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. And so the Lord has equipped us to do what we needed to have done during those times. Mrs. Bester: America needs Integration was great. Why are they in chains? Yeah. But, you know, I had heard the stories so I was prepared for all the stuff that could possibly have happened. In episode 9.3 Bryan talks with Park Ranger Mimi Gorman about how Crater Lake was created by Mount Mazama, what makes it special, mysteries about the lake, the legacy of Mount Mazama and tips . I would imagine, in the moment, at least a little bit off kilter. And I think immediately to civil rights icon Julian Bond who was asked about this same connection between the Black civil rights movement and its gay counterpart a couple of years ago. Mrs. Bester: I just did a, when I knew we were going to be talking, I read a lot about the Phillips, about the Freedom Riders. I used to wake up every single morning and watch the news. There are reports that even interviewed Alma Green's nieces, her niece. And it's a little bit different than that. In my town here in Michigan City, IN where I live, we've got a lighthouse on Lake Michigan and the longest standing light keeper in the United States was here for 43 years, from 1861 to 1904, a woman named Harriet Colfax, and for that full 43 years she lived there with another woman. I don't know what we're gonna get. Because the iron and steel industry, while it was not premised in enslavement, it used a racially divisive bifurcated wage to exploit labor for the benefit of the industrialists. So how they do that, Lord knows how the government works, but I think it is on the government. And I think the fact that when Dr. King finally came to Birmingham, he had been invited seven times, according to Andrew Young, we just, it made a difference. So the idea was you could maybe get into the park, but you couldn't use the facilities, or you'd have to find facilities that were just for you. Park Ranger DISCOVERS Town That Shouldnt Exist - Apple Podcasts And it's within that framework that we find the civil rights struggle itself. You can't break a chain that's gripped, you know. And it's there so that we can never forget what happened that Sunday and the loss of those girls. Ashley: But she's not a singer at all. Uncomfortable stuff. Interpretation, Education, and Volunteers Directorate, Region 2. 20 Best National Park Podcasts You Must Follow in 2023 - Feedspot Blog OK, thank you. Long answer. However, the reality is that political economies often use divisions for purposes of exploitation. They can just breathe. America's National Parks Podcast on Apple Podcasts 245 episodes This weekly story-based show takes you behind the events, people, and nature that have shaped our National Parks, and the 421 units managed by the National Park Service. Segregation was so bad that even today, there are people who have the mindset of still being there, because it was so ground into them. And we have yet to thank them for the many things that have happened because of what they did. And I think I really learned a lot of bad habits about equating my worth with my grades because we all want to make the highest grade possible. Forist: Yeah. And the money that is poured into maintaining the prison system is absolutely astronomical. It's really unbelievable. I hope some of these you haven't been asked before, but the book, the memoir, pardon me. That's kind of part of the job as poet laureate, you know the people. In that sense, it played into the old arguments of the white supremists who tried to dismiss the civil rights struggle as one of outside agitators. birmingham civil rights national monument, And so I wanted to ask if you could maybe share some of the stories or a story of a female entrepreneur that most resonated with you and why that most resonated with you. Denise: I am so delighted to join you today for this conversation. So we had separate offices that were all really impacting the social justice and racial equity spaces, so our LGBTQ liaison on our Office of Peace and Policy, our special initiatives, we had a faith-based outreach, immigrant affairs. Shuttlesworth, when he moved to the city, he was a native of the city, well, he had grown up in Birmingham, he had left, but came back after the Second World War when he was brought in as pastor at Bethel Baptist Church in Collegeville, which was a prominent Black church in Birmingham. And you can be so strategic that people don't really recognize that strategy. It does. Charles Person: Well, I didn't quite tell her the whole truth. We love Frozen. Young people hold the key, but it does no good if they don't get involved. There was a question that is sort of a question I wanted to ask. And I do think that the Freedom Rides in many ways were one of the first really big nails in the coffin of segregation. So here is a person that already has a lot going on for him, a lot that he's dealing with and then in come the Freedom Riders, and they don't have a peaceful journey until Alabama. And also I'm representing Alabama. But it appeared in 63 that King was able to end the demonstrations with the promise that something was going to change. I met a young queer woman working in the Cook County Forest preserves outside of Chicago last weekend and in our conversation, where she was providing a service for a group called Out in Nature, a queer identifying bunch of nature heads in the Chicago area. It's another to be able to access a system that is financially just out of your league. And when I think about it, 30 teachers, even if 20 of them stayed in the classroom an additional 3,5, 10 years, look at the impact of this particular program. Like, right now it's all about the hot young virtuoso. And he said he would always do anything for teachers because he understood their importance in terms of getting the story straight, teaching history and telling the story. And I really enjoyed every bit of it. And so if you wanted literature from the NAACP, you didn't have it sent to your house, you would have it sent to the beauty shop.

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