Or will they even be used as allies? Ill ask the zen question: if all the other shows were good, would you like them? Its been a theme that popped up for years. The podcast is available on Apple Podcasts,Spotify,Pocket Casts,Stitcher and is part of the TrekMovie Podcast Network. Ill agree on Nemesis, and that the obsession with TWOK is stupid (I dont even think its the best of the Kirk films). Interesting. But thats a standard trope that Ive just gotten a little numb at. Not everyone in Trek lives out their full life span after all. Vic Morrow and Sidney Poitier as high schooll students in BLACKBOARD JUNGLE. We can praise it without bashing everything else, which disrespects the fans here who enjoy those other things. I already know. A skeptical Jean-Luc mocks him as a freedom fighter, not buying how Beverly would be part of all of this, and young Jack hits back with a crack on how Picard planted roots in his vineyard while everyone else moved on. LDS has already made this evident since they been named dropped there several times now as far back as its second episode in season one. The more I read comments from fans, the more I am 100% certain they have a different set of criteria for new shows than the old ones, thats for sure. Back to the present: As the Eleos faces that big bad ship, Jack explains to Riker and Picard the Fenris encounter was just the start of a series of different baddies after them, which included Klingons and even some Starfleet guys. " Shadow Captain Kayvaan Shrike, Raven Guard 3rd Company Youth But then, for those Im also not reading internet stuff about them from fans and getting spoilers for, either. Briton here. Where are you coming off? What Should Be Done About Flaco, the Eurasian Eagle-Owl Loose in New York? The F-word! The story is just as good without those words. At the same time, sure I liked the PG-13 take on violence in First Contact and Enterprise. Over-the-top nonsense and a complete lack of gravitas / convincing menace. Shrike class | Memory Beta, non-canon Star Trek Wiki | Fandom Acting on behalf ofEmperor Honorius, the praetorian prefect Jovius arranged peace talks with Alaric, theVisigoth King, who demanded: Jovius relayed these demands to Emperor Honorius, along with his recommendation to approve. Im coming around on this season after these two episodes. Over on the Titan, Seven pushes for a rescue, but Captain Shaw doesnt see any of this as his business. Many fans would become like no one expects the Spanish Inquisition users with torches and pitchforks and would claim his head. Wish they could have incorporated the Borg / AI Picard themes. Indeed, it was posited that Vadic in particular had been made more resilient as a result of her torturer's experiments, and there was footage of her being chipped apart in liquid form. Mostly because it felt too much like a rehash of Firstborn., But then I was reading a discussion among fans about Picards character arc during TNG. He become irrational and angry and turned him into an opportunity for Picard and Riker to save the day. Im glad you speak for everybody else. Raises an eyebrow, surely. Wow, I thought I was all alone on how ridiculous this show is becoming. That still doesnt explain why Boimler knows about them though. if he is actually supposed to be somewhere around 20-25- he has gotten into a tremendous amount of trouble in a very short timeframe. Calling PTSD psychobabble is ludicrously offensive, and someone using it to speculate on his motives is not a problem. Can he go back in time and knock Kurtzmans and Fullers heads together or something and nip DSC in the bud? You seem to take some of this stuff a little too personally. The DSC Ferengi never brother me that much. Most species are between 16 cm (6.3 in) and 25 cm (9.8 in) in size; however, the genus Corvinella, with its extremely elongated tail-feathers, may reach up to 50 cm (20 in) in length. There is still plenty of rationalization in there, but it didnt balance out his callousness. As all hope seems lost on the Eleos with Big Pointy tractoring them in, the guys are resigned to their fate, but BAM Titan heroships in to break the tractor and transport everyone over; turns out Sevens final call to Shaws ego did the trick. Disengage had a lot of ground to cover with the revelation of the main villain Vadic (and her ship), Worfs introduction as Raffis handler, and the anchor issue, Beverlys son is also Jean-Lucs son. As if language is bad? She knows this rando Rommie isnt the end of the story and has a lead on a Ferengi weapons dealer named Sneed, but the mysterious handler makes it clear disengage (episode title alert!). It hasnt been explicitly confirmed, but it appears that Vadic is a Changeling in Star Trek Picard season 3. I like the new SNW kirk better than Shatner in TOS after just one episode, and he wasnt even that great. It was all fun and looked unique, and that carries over now. 'Star Trek: Picard' Teaser Shows Amanda Plummer as Final - IMDb Indeed, the cackling made Michelle Yeohs literal hissing look subtle. Ive seen pictures from Dave Blass on Twitter of the Rafi planet stuff. Extremely uncalled for levels of violence from Worf. Just to be clear: the things Im objecting to on this particular thread are in all honesty what could be classed as nitpicks, and as someone pointed out upstream, if youre going to going to refuse to enjoy a show over every little plot element that doesnt bear close inspection then youre probably watching the wrong franchise. After all, her actions led to the Klingon war and the loss of many Starfleet lives and ships. The shrike's hunting strategy is often compared to that of raptors like eagles, hawks, and falcons: They'll sit on an elevated perch, scan the ground below, and pounce on any spotted prey. So yes. Yes, AP, I get upset when potential isnt realized. ThoughtCo, Feb. 16, 2021, thoughtco.com/alaric-king-of-the-visigoths-116804. It also streams internationally on Amazon Prime Video in more than 200 countries and territories. Worf is still very much Worf thankfully. This is yet another reason why I really dont like streaming. All intriguing bits, but it would have been nice to get a bit more movement on the season plot in this episode. So dont whine when people call you out for it (not specifically talking to you, A34). Is it the best in the industry? And look these stories mostly lasted. Really OLD teenagers from outer space.. Yet to this day, anytime I look back at film from when I was that age, I dont see what the stache did that made such a difference to people. Destroying the shuttle clearly would have resulted in Beverlys death had Hansen not persuaded Shaw to intervene with the Titan. All the others I wait till the end to watch episodes every day or two. Ill swallow the impulse to say that if doing research on classified information was that easy for Vadic, she must have been working in the Trump or Biden administrations. When the USS Titan turns up, she gives the Star Trek starship an ultimatum: hand over Jack Crusher or be destroyed. Besides that not a lot gave me feelings to be honest. And like you, I do think these first two episodes have been decent. Unfortunately, the rest of Disengage was a severe letdown; my initial reaction was, to channel the legendary Tim Lynchs review of TUC, good but not great, but upon a few hours reflection, I think even that conclusion may be too generous. I think theyre casting based on talent, not look. Overall if I wasnt told that this season is going to be really good, I would be a little concerned after this episode, but there are so many great scenes in it regardless. And I want more Captain Shaw and Commander Hansen. I dont think he was wrong even to refer to her as Cmdr. Ill see where the son plot goes but I really really wish they didnt go there. Amanda Plummer seems to be a good actress (this is the first time i have seen her in something) and its cool that she is Christopher Plummers (General Chang from ST6) daughter too. But I will reserve judgment until the final moment of the final episode. its fantastic. To be clear: voicing your opinion of a thing is fine, when its at the appropriate place and time. When its good, nobody complains. I can attest that its 6 fantastic episodes in a row. Warning: SPOILERS for Star Trek: Picard Season 3, Episode 2 - "Disengage" The Shrike has a secret weapon in Star Trek: Picard season 3, and what could be the villainous Captain Vadic's (Amanda Plummer) ace-in-the-hole may spell doom for Admiral Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) and the USS Titan-A. But I didnt buy he would just let Picard and Riker be killed. Practical concerns -- like food -- kept Alaric from immediately implementing his plan. I think the producer realized what would rock is a TOS motion picture series with Saavik on the Titan (and David Marcus) and trying to glue that to TNG. I can see past a slight age difference because Speleers is so good in the role. When Corvin Severax was slain in pursuit of the brilliant T'au Commander, Shadowsun, Kayvaan Shrike was the clear choice to take his place as Master of Shadows, Chapter Master of the Raven Guard. Isnt that what IDIC is all about? Isnt that how it always done, evil or not? Im still of the opinion that if this ends up being good its more likely a mistake than intentional. This case clearly is. With the exception of The Wire, none of those examples are that special, if you ask me (though Ive heard Carnivale is incredible, I havent seen it). (I gave myself 2min to come up with those as extreme examples of like/dislike. She seems to already have oodles of power, money and loyalty at her disposal. Will also watch horror, but mostly from behind his fingers. As said, in this case its fine because its at least related: comparing this to the first two seasons briefly and succinctly is understandable and even warranted. This time, Jovius recommended that Honorius reject the offer. (Ret.) Take the L and move on. I like Worf better, so I was glad to see him, but the Picard character thats been a one-man army with a sword before now was Elnor. Gill is a Latinist, writer, and teacher of ancient history and Latin. When I paid, I showed my college IDthe clerk went white as a sheet and apologized, saying hed pegged me for a high school student). If youre offended by damn then most Trek is unsuitable for you. What a fantastic ride so far. Picard regroups with Riker to press Shaw to find another way, but the captain is dubious, questing if the criminal in the brig is even Beverlys son, which sends Will to sickbay to check in on exactly how sedated she is. Although she is commanding a GIANT ship that is overloaded with immense weapons. Then, to have her explode against the hull of the Shrike. Yet he can belay Shaws order to unlock the transporters, thereby throwing the whole ship into danger, by simply shouting Admirals orders! and everyone follows it? It is unknown what happened to him after the barrier was destroyed. Other people who watched the entire season months ago has confirmed it. I wish the movies had a character with even half his dimensions. If Jack is a Federation citizen, then that alone shouldve been enough to compel Shaw to protect him, especially in the face of a sketchy bounty hunter. Amanda Plummer is a Tony and Emmy winner, revered for her stage performances of Tennessee Williams among many other accomplishments. Its a good way to remind the audience addiction is no joke, and its ramifications run deep and far. Paramount did however repeatedly try to placate them with riskier, more adventurous set-ups for DS9, Voyager and Enterprise. Watch out, homeboy! I hope so. Good like LICENCE TO KILL and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE and DEEP COVER and THE TERMINATOR and THE HOUR and THE WIRE and CARNIVALE and BITE THE BULLET and ALL THAT JAZZ? I would probably be a bit pissed too lol. Is Vadic a Changeling in Star Trek Picard season 3? The Drama. As of this writing, one additional episode of "Picard" has aired, and a new "big boss" has already been revealed beyond Vadic. Now all the stuff I loved, the biggest, WORF YES WORF!!!!!!!!!! She was demonstrating how powerful her ship was. The king of the Goths demanded pepper, silk, and enough gold and silver that the Romans had to strip statues and melt ornaments to pay the ransom. While she was on the bridge of the Titan, the show's many heroes worked elsewhere to hack back into the ship's computers and engage a special, hidden airlock. Picard asks, What just happened. LaForge, They threw a ship at us. Really, writers? Either way, I want to see more of this. Section 31 was one of them. And at long, long last, we saw a truly menacing Ferengi, not a Wacky Ferengi (TM) meant as comic relief. And since Crusher is the son of Picard. Picard finding out he had a fake son that was created by a Ferengi to get back at him is not remotely the same situation here. :). Things do get bogged down at times with details and backstories being read out loud, with Michelle Hurd given the tough task of running much of her exposition with just a computer as a scene partner. I refuse to accept that any competent crew wouldnt have confiscated any electronic devices Jack Crusher had on his person before throwing him into the hoosegow. But I still dont believe he would just let them die either. My reaction was closer to yours Silvereyes. 477 comments so far, Star Trek: Picard Season 3, Episode 2 Debuted Thursday, February 23, 2023 Photo: Howard Arndt/Audubon Photography Awards, Help power unparalleled conservation work for birds across the Americas, Stay informed on important news about birds and their habitats, Receive reduced or free admission across our network of centers and sanctuaries, Great Egret. The kid cops to running afoul of the galaxys gangsters and assorted angry fathers, but he has no clue what the heavily armed Vadic wants. In one scene in the latest episode, she took a knife and cut her hand and Changeling goo (theres no other word really) came out from it, before turning into a Changelings face. I like Shaw. There has to be more. You dont have to like Picard, but that doesnt mean you can be a complete ass and demean others in the process. I enjoy the episode a week model. Again, I was prepared for this because RMB said months ago Raffi plot is the slower part of the early episodes but it gets much better for both the character and the story line. I hope this description changes in subsequent episodes. What is Picards command authority? As the series went on, it was revealed . Maybe ive been taken in by nostalgia, but in the dinner scene Picard sounded like Picard, not Jake Picard. That was Star Wars. I ultimately wonder if thats going to turn out to be the characters age. Timey wimey is on-brand for Matalas indeed. Much of the best Star Trek omits anyone acting in a bad guy-ish way. How many people here knows the inner workings of the NSA? Vadic's ship, the Shrike, got the spotlight shone on it in the latest episode of Star Trek Picard. So a lot of us have gotten a bit used to that. I wish! Yep. Working for Medicins sans Frontieres doesnt excuse gun running in South Sudan on the side. And the planet wasnt any better. I great up watching it loving it as an 10 year old kid. Again this obsession with him and that movie wasnt so blatant until the modern era of Star Trek. I cant help being thrilled to see Worf finally being unshackled from years of bloodless batleth battles. Ive been poking around since the beginning as well. Matalas said: "In the episode, [there are] not a lot of space battles or anything, so maybe you could save your pennies to make it work? What compounds the problem is they really didnt need to include Kirk in the series in the first place. One can see the frequent re-use of sets Guinan's bar makes several appearances in both real-life and in holographic forms which is in keeping with "Star Trek" traditions; many episodes took place entirely on the Enterprise, making use of maybe three or four already-constructed sets. I think the idea has a ton of promise, but it was let down by being in the first season for those reasons, and the general weakness of the early years. And add to that, doesnt Picard shoots one of them ON THE CONTAINER BEVERLY is in??? What exactly the open account is, however, has not yet been revealed. Too good a thread to have dropped for over 35 years. Wow. So yeah I can definitely buy Picard would embrace having a son by this point. how about you exit the internet and get a life. Yes, theres clearly influence from TWOK, but theres also a ton of influence from SfS, TUC, and lots of influence from individual episodes of TNG. said ten year old me), but more recently saw a review that picked it apart, and ive come to reconsider it. Just, wow. The Senate sent Priscus Attalus to the Emperor to urge him to satisfy Alaric's demands, but Honorius again refused. They are trying to setup Jacks abilities, but in doing so, have to make everyone and everything look silly or stupid. The diabolical villainess is played by cult actress Amanda Plummer. I hope that Picard do not need to take him out of Command. I think Ive re-watched Worfs entrance five times now. But cant we enjoy Picard without the backhanded sniping at other stuff? But Im loving Shaw. Instead, he ordered 6000 men from Dalmatia to come defend Rome. None of seems to be a big deal as youre suggesting. or DCS? With Eleos on its last space legs, the plan is to get Bevs med pod onto the shuttle and try to get back to the Titan, but the bad guys blow up the shuttle. You may be looking for Shrike-class fighter. Info Her character may be salvaged yet. I really curious if they explain its Color. The second time he was pulling rank. There was still little plot movement this week to connect our two continuing stories, except a hint that the Shrike has the stolen Starfleet weapon locked and loaded, but we are starting to get a sense of there being some kind of network connected to Vadic, even beyond (presumably) Sneed.

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